New artist website

New artist website

I have been evaluating a new web design software for artists foliotwist.com  and I have found it quite complex.  It was a heavy load to work on, but it was challenging to me. This web content management system (cms), unlike lightCMS which is much easier for me, because of its custommable quality. 

Foliotwist, I found, has a very good help system which walks you through the myriad of possible content for your website. You only have to click on a content box and it has all the suggestions and assistance you ever need. It is a beautifully crafted piece of software but targetted to artists and not as flexible as lightCMS. 

The admin site is not easy to navigate, unlike this software (lightCMS), but I am amazed at its detail if you want it.

Website content creation software with SEO in mind is not an easy pill to swallow, but foliotwist makes it a little better with it's sugar. Good software!


12 comments (Add your own)

1. Chai wrote:
I have decided to cancel the foliotwist website because it only had a trial period of 10 days, and it costs a little more money than I am willing to pay for, and besides there is a few free website that is just as suitable for me, but I will keep it in mind for my artist friends.

Another thing I found was that the SEO of the website was not all that effective in the short run, in that this site had more hits that it in the first week, but then I could not trial it longer because of the short trial period.

Sat, June 12, 2010 @ 9:29 AM

2. Chai wrote:
Dawn emailed this to the CEO's,

Hi Dan and Zac,
My husband, Chai evaluated your website in conjunction with another website and looked at the overall navigation, choices and SEO in mind.
As you know, SEO is top dog when it comes to websites, what happens if you get the best crafted website and no one visited. This is the main point, he pointed out to me. He had analyse the hits of your website and it was not performing at all.
But saying that, he also felt that 10 days was not a trial at all. Maybe more time is needed to get the hits.
thank you.
p/s your most recent posts from your customers were about a month old.

Mon, June 14, 2010 @ 9:02 AM

3. Dan wrote:
Hi Chai - The truth is, SEO isn't a quick solution for any new website. Our system is meant to be used for several months, at least. If an artist DOES utilize the features available for a few months, they will begin to receive steady traffic.

The free trial is only intended to showcase our system, its ease-of-use, etc.

Thanks for trying us out, though, and all the best,
-Dan

Mon, June 14, 2010 @ 3:27 PM

4. Chai wrote:
Sorry Dan to disappoint you.

Another site of Dawn's setup exactly like in your foliotwist, received 333 visits the first day and by that night it had 602 visits.

So is this an error? Am I missing something here that you know about, please let me know.

Sorry if I sound too harsh, please do not misunderstand me.

all the best.

Mon, June 14, 2010 @ 6:55 PM

5. Dan wrote:
Hm. . . The numbers you mention for Dawn's second site seem way too good to be true. That's just based on my experience. Anything is possible, of course.

Could I ask what service you used for this second website, and what traffic-counting program you used to get those numbers?

For example, if you're using Google Analytics on that second website, you should be able to see where that traffic is coming from, or what keywords people used to find that website. My guess would be that the traffic did not come from search engines, but from some other source. I only say that because within a day it's very unlikely that Google or any other search engine would have already indexed the site.

Tue, June 15, 2010 @ 8:16 PM

6. Chai wrote:
Thank you, Dan. My data came from Google Analytic, half was from Dawn's blogger site and half from direct traffic. None came from search engines. The blogger site has a lot of visitors judging from the real time visitors counter globe. Yes, Search engines had not indexed the site yet. I had 333 visitors in the afternoon and 636 by that night. Blogger had 600,000 since a week ago when I installed the revolver maps. The difference is the amount of time visitors stayed at blogger - 9 secs while website had 9 mins average time. If that meant anything.

I used a private company website hosting program, I do all the programming eg seo myself., and I also use stat-counter for a quick count too. I did a A$4000 workshop course to help me to do seo and html years ago and I think it has paid off.

I thought that was too good too, the inhouse site analytics confirmed the Blogger map counter at the same time.

regards
chai

Tue, June 15, 2010 @ 9:20 PM

7. Dan wrote:
If Dawn's blog has a lot of traffic, then it will naturally send a percentage of that traffic to her other websites. The only thing is, I don't see her blog showing up for that much traffic. 600,000 visitors in a week is a LOT.

Go ahead and type her blog URL into compete.com. You'll see that they don't have a profile for her blog because it is below their threshold for a minimum amount of traffic.

So I'm not sure how these numbers make sense. It's an interesting situation. According to the information you've given me, it seems that the stat counters for both Dawn's blog and other website are showing much more traffic than is normally possible.

Perhaps the Revolver Map is messing with the traffic counting code? That's the only thing I can think of at the moment without seeing all the data for myself.

In any event, you stated that her other website didn't get any traffic from SEO, which is what I expected. It was simply too new of a website.

If you want to discuss this more, or if you'd like me to try to figure out what the stat numbers mean, I'd be happy to look directly at your Google Analytics and Stat Counter numbers. Just send me an email and we'll take a look together.

All the best,
-Dan

Wed, June 16, 2010 @ 8:18 AM

8. Chai wrote:
I have seen what you mean, there is an error in the report, Revolver Maps has the traffic starting at 500,000 but the real time traffic is only 30-50 hits per day, that makes it around max 700 in the fortnight. Only started to see 2 search engine's hit today on her site. The in-house software traffic had 600 in two days, but I think the figures are not unique visitors, it is how many page views. I will ask them how they do it.

I think the overestimate must be to amaze gullible people.

Now looking at Google Analytic, the breakdown comparisons for visits were 45-33-16 i.e. blogger-Dawn's site-foliotwist site. The figures are only for a week and page hits are 70-114-48.

Early predictions are rankings in that order.

Will leave it for about 3 months, and tell you the results, if you do not delete Dawn's foliotwist site.

thank you for the exercise.
regards
chai

Wed, June 16, 2010 @ 6:27 PM

9. Dan wrote:
Chai, I'm sorry we didn't discuss this before you canceled. Dawn's site was removed within a few days of receiving your cancellation request. If you'd like to sign up again and re-upload her artwork, etc, then you can continue with the experiment.

Please contact our support email if you have any questions or need help with that.

Thu, June 17, 2010 @ 7:09 AM

10. Chai wrote:
thanks Dan,
I don't think I will take up the offer, I had a very heavy workload doing that site.
I find this website is the simplest to do and more suitable for SEO then any that I have done, except for my first website for Dawn www.dawnlim.com
This one was in the best vein, that Moshe Mikanovsky, Hugh MacLeod and Peter Wolsely blogged on their sites about artists online advertising and SEO.
Since Google's new priority in SEO directions, I have taken to blogging a lot more than I usually do.
regards chai

Thu, June 17, 2010 @ 7:44 AM

11. Chai wrote:
hello Dan,

I was a bit disappointed when I thought that Revolver Maps made a mistake for the 500,000 visits it reported, it was a lot. But on the other hand, it has reached almost 700,000 in less than a week since I kept my eye on it.

I think my assumptions in the previous posts were wrong. Looks like the visitors were coming.
I am puzzled!

So what do you think now? did you look lately?

Sun, June 20, 2010 @ 4:11 PM

12. Dan wrote:
I'm sorry, Chai, but 200,000 visitors in a week is not possible.

It's just not.

That kind of traffic would show up on any major traffic tracking website (Compete.com for example, Alexa.com, Quantcast, etc) and neither Dawn's blog nor website is showing up for any amount of traffic on those sites.

Again, I'd be happy to look at your Google Analytics or Revolver Maps data directly, but otherwise I don't know what's causing the glitch. I just don't know where you're getting your numbers. PLEASE send me an email if you'd like me to do that, because from here on out I will not be able to continue checking this comment thread for your replies.

Best of luck, Chai.

Mon, June 21, 2010 @ 1:46 AM

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